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Us JOAAP folks facilitated a conversation about the feelings that come up when people work together. We invited collaborative members from the Echo Park Time Bank, Fallen Fruit. We did this at the Public School. This event was done in collab with the Performing Economies exhibit at FOCA.


Matias of Fallen Fruit shares how money can effect group dynamics even in utopian projects.

 

 

Photo-0027:1.jpgLisa Gerstein, an organizer of the Echo Park Time Bank get frustrated when talking about the difficulty of competing agendas in group work. Autumn Rooney and Lisa Gerstein were there representing the timebank.















Photo-0024:1.jpgAnother Time Banker demonstrates the constant need to work as negotiator during group work.   










    





Photo-0026:1.jpgPeople attending the discussion thoughtfully consider.

















IMG_2553:1.jpgSome of the goals of the discussion.



















IMG_2554:1.jpgNotes and quotes from the discussion:
Managing is wrangling?
-it's not what I want to do.
-your Job is to manage a collective.

"I don't want to tell you to wash your socks"
"He (sic) never reads my email"

Finding a space to not get emotionally involved

Fights over crediting

How to negotiate relationships?








IMG_2555:1.jpg"We are all hear to be happy"

How do you manage expectations?

"What triggers what?"

Managing time lines

Fear of imposition












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How do you live with something that isn't your idea?

More content in fight... less emotion

FAIR FIGHTING
Don't avoid conflict but learn to manage it succesfully

Moving away from "resentments" and to more specfics.

Everything is all of ours.










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How time is valued
-conficts arise around this issue
  "that's easy for you to say. You have a job."

"When the object becomes commodity that is a moment of stress."

SCALE AS A STRESSOR

Anxiety- Bill Paying

Whoever has money puts that in.

The disparity between $ is sucky
A disparity of LOVE





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Internal/ External
Resentful
Trust
Furious discussion
Everyone's an asset

Sharing vs Holding
Altruism- Giving

OVERCOMING ALIENATION -> FEAR
-> Guilt








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TRUST- > RELEARNING "TRIBALISM"

"Work Load is too much"
"We are volunteers"
"We don't need to be rigid"
"Manegerial"- conflict resolution


FIGURING OUT HOW TO LET IT GO

conflicts- "we are a happy collective though we conflict." "with a group of 100 personalities people require attention"






IMG_2560:1.jpgFreud "Money = Love"

"what is private what is public?"
"Where not Stalinists"
'We sit together to make Jam"
"working with strangers is difficutl"

negotiating doesn't create conflict.
Labor is easy (sharing?)
Jam is the excuse for temporary group relations.

It is a nice way to involve people.









IMG_2561:1.jpgTechnology as mediating device
-hard to transcend to get to day to day

Fear of crossing boundaries.
guilt of talking to much
     Money is supposed to take emotions out of it.

Interpersonality of exchange vs the personal nature of time exchange?

How your value your time your personal worth and how you measure Self Value

The incentive of giving